Gudanji/Wakaja educator and author of We Come With This Place, Debra Dank; Architect, lecturer and author of Checkerboard Hill, Jade Kake (Ngāpuhi, Te Whakatōhea, Ngāti Whakaue) and Asians Supporting Tino Rangatiratanga representative Kirsty Fong join Murdoch Stephens for a vital conversation on how people – whatever their background – can lend effective support in this crucial moment for our two nations